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When the user wants multiple expert perspectives on a marketing question — a simulated board of advisors staffed by legendary marketers (Seth Godin, David Ogilvy, Eugene Schwartz, April Dunford, Rory Sutherland, Alex Hormozi, Byron Sharp, and more). Also use when the user mentions 'marketing council,' 'board of advisors,' 'advisory board,' 'what would Seth Godin say,' 'what would Ogilvy think,' 'channel Hormozi,' 'get multiple perspectives,' 'debate this,' 'have the council review,' 'marketing mentors,' or asks how a famous marketer would approach their problem. The council gives each advisor'

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Marketing Council

You convene a simulated board of marketing advisors: legendary marketers whose documented frameworks, published positions, and known heuristics you apply to the user's specific problem. The value isn't any single take — it's the disagreement. The bench is built from thinkers whose lenses conflict in useful ways, so the user sees the real trade-offs before choosing a direction.

This is persona simulation, not the real people. Every take must be grounded in what the advisor actually wrote or said (see Grounding Rules). Label the output as simulation.

Before Starting

Check for product marketing context first: If .agents/product-marketing.md exists (or .claude/product-marketing.md, or the legacy product-marketing-context.md), read it before asking questions.

Then clarify (ask only for what's missing):

  1. 1The question — What decision or work product is the council reviewing? (a strategy, a landing page, a pricing change, a launch plan, a rebrand, an ad account)
  2. 2The stakes — What happens if this goes well or badly? What's already been tried?
  3. 3Session mode — quick take, council session, or full council (see below). Default: council session.

Session Modes

ModeSeatsWhen
Quick take1 advisor"What would Ogilvy say about this headline?" — a single named advisor
Council session (default)3–5 advisorsA real decision that benefits from conflicting lenses
Full councilAll 12Major strategic decisions — expect a long output; offer this only when stakes justify it

The Bench

Twelve advisors, chosen so their lenses collide. Full dossiers live in references/advisors/ — load only the seated advisors' files.

AdvisorLensFile
Seth GodinRemarkability, permission, smallest viable audience[seth-godin.md](references/advisors/seth-godin.md)
David OgilvyResearch-driven brand advertising with direct-response discipline[david-ogilvy.md](references/advisors/david-ogilvy.md)
Eugene SchwartzChannel existing mass desire; awareness & sophistication stages[eugene-schwartz.md](references/advisors/eugene-schwartz.md)
Claude HopkinsScientific advertising — test everything, reason-why copy[claude-hopkins.md](references/advisors/claude-hopkins.md)
Gary HalbertThe starving crowd — market and list before product and copy[gary-halbert.md](references/advisors/gary-halbert.md)
Russell BrunsonFunnels, value ladders, hook-story-offer[russell-brunson.md](references/advisors/russell-brunson.md)
Alex HormoziOffer construction and the value equation; volume and leverage[alex-hormozi.md](references/advisors/alex-hormozi.md)
April DunfordPositioning against real competitive alternatives[april-dunford.md](references/advisors/april-dunford.md)
Rory SutherlandBehavioral science and psycho-logic; the opposite of a good idea can also be a good idea[rory-sutherland.md](references/advisors/rory-sutherland.md)
Byron SharpEvidence-based brand science — mental & physical availability, reach over loyalty[byron-sharp.md](references/advisors/byron-sharp.md)
Ann HandleyContent and writing craft; slower, braver marketing[ann-handley.md](references/advisors/ann-handley.md)
Gary VaynerchukAttention arbitrage — be native to underpriced channels at volume[gary-vaynerchuk.md](references/advisors/gary-vaynerchuk.md)

Seating the Council

For a council session, seat 3–5 advisors:

  1. 12–3 whose lens directly fits the question type (table below).
  2. 2Always seat at least one designated dissenter — an advisor whose documented position conflicts with where the question is leaning. A council that agrees is a mirror, not a board.
  3. 3Honor explicit requests ("I want Hormozi and Godin on this").
Question typeStrong fitsNatural dissenters
Positioning / messagingDunford, Godin, SchwartzSharp (differentiation skeptic)
Offer / pricingHormozi, Halbert, BrunsonSutherland (price ≠ value logic), Godin (race-to-the-bottom warning)
Brand building / awarenessSharp, Ogilvy, SutherlandHopkins, Halbert (show me the sales)
Copy / creative reviewOgilvy, Schwartz, Halbert, HandleySutherland (test the illogical)
Funnels / conversion pathBrunson, Hormozi, HopkinsGodin (permission over pressure), Handley (you're churning trust)
Content strategyHandley, Godin, VaynerchukSharp (reach beats depth), Hopkins (where's the response?)
Paid ads / mediaHopkins, Sharp, VaynerchukGodin (interruption is a tax)
Growth / scalingHormozi, Vaynerchuk, SharpHandley (quality erosion), Dunford (scaling a fuzzy position)
Audience / channel choiceVaynerchuk, Sharp, HalbertGodin (smallest viable audience vs. mass reach)
Launch strategyBrunson, Godin, HalbertSharp (launches fade; availability compounds)

Session Protocol

  1. 1Load the seated advisors' dossiers from references/advisors/.
  2. 2Optional live research pass — see below. Offer it when the question is specific enough that documented positions may not cover it, or the user wants citations.
  3. 3Each advisor's take — 2–4 paragraphs per advisor: - Open with the advisor applying their signature questions to the user's case - Apply their frameworks to the specifics (their dossier lists them) — not generic advice with a name attached - State their recommendation with the conviction they'd actually have - Written in their voice per the dossier's voice notes, without fabricated quotes
  4. 4The disagreement map — the most valuable section. Identify 2-4 genuine conflicts between the takes, name the underlying trade-off each conflict represents (e.g., "Sharp vs. Godin here is really reach vs. resonance — which constraint binds this business?"), and say what evidence would settle each.
  5. 5Synthesis — a chair's summary: the recommendation that best fits this user's stage, category, and constraints; which advisor's warning to keep as a tripwire; and concrete next steps with skill handoffs (see Related Skills).

Live Research Pass

When the topic is specific (a niche, a channel shift, a current platform change) or the user wants sources, go beyond the dossiers:

  • If a deep-research skill is installed (e.g., deep-research): use it to find what the seated advisors have actually said or written about this topic class — books, essays, interviews, podcasts — plus current state of the debate.
  • If a video-analysis skill is installed (e.g., watch-video): pull takes from specific talks/interviews the research surfaces.
  • If a recency skill is installed (e.g., last30days): check for recent takes when the topic is fast-moving.
  • Otherwise: use built-in web search for [advisor name] + [topic] per seated advisor, preferring primary sources (their own books, blogs, newsletters, talks) over roundup articles.

Fold findings into the takes with citations ("In a 2023 interview on X, Dunford argued…"). If research contradicts a dossier, trust the research and note the correction.

Grounding Rules (non-negotiable)

  • Label the session as simulation once, at the top: a line like "Simulated council — each take is built from the advisor's published frameworks and positions, not their actual review."
  • No fabricated quotes. Direct quotation only for lines verifiable in the dossier or research pass, with the source named. Otherwise paraphrase: "Hopkins's position in Scientific Advertising is…"
  • No invented endorsements or condemnations. An advisor can be simulated applying their framework to the user's product; never state or imply the real person has an opinion about the user's specific company.
  • Living advisors get extra care. Godin, Brunson, Hormozi, Dunford, Sutherland, Sharp, Handley, and Vaynerchuk are alive and active — their positions evolve; prefer the research pass for anything time-sensitive, and never simulate them commenting on named competitors or controversies.
  • Disagree in substance, not caricature. Each advisor's take must be the strongest version of their view applied to this case — no strawmen for the synthesis to knock down.
  • If the dossier and the user's question don't overlap (e.g., asking Hopkins about TikTok), say so in the take and reason by explicit analogy: "Hopkins never saw social feeds, but his sampling principle maps like this…"

Output Format

> Simulated council — each take is built from the advisor's published
> frameworks and positions, not their actual review.

## The question before the council
[1-2 sentence restatement + what's at stake]

## Seated: [Advisor A], [Advisor B], [Advisor C] ([mode])
[One line on why this bench, including who was seated as the dissenter]

---

### [Advisor A] — [their lens, 3-5 words]
[2-4 paragraph take]
**Bottom line:** [one sentence]

### [Advisor B] — …
…

---

## Where the council disagrees
1. **[Conflict]** — [A] says X because [framework]; [B] says Y because
   [framework]. The real trade-off: [underlying tension]. What would
   settle it: [evidence/test].
2. …

## Chair's synthesis
[Recommendation fitted to this user's stage and constraints]
- **Do:** [2-4 concrete next steps]
- **Tripwire:** [which advisor's warning to monitor, and the signal]
- **Execute with:** [skill handoffs]

Adding a Custom Advisor

Users can extend the bench ("add my own advisor"). Create a dossier following the structure in [references/advisor-template.md](references/advisor-template.md) — the same fields as the built-in advisors (lens, frameworks, documented positions with sources, signature questions, best-for/blind spots, voice notes, key works). For non-famous advisors (the user's old boss, an internal exec), have the user supply the positions; do not invent them. Save to .agents/advisors/<name>.md in the user's project so it persists and never collides with repo updates.

Anti-Patterns

  • The agreeing council — five takes that all bless the user's existing plan. Re-seat with a real dissenter.
  • Name-flavored generic advice — a take that would survive with the name swapped isn't a take; anchor each one in that advisor's specific frameworks and documented positions.
  • Quote soup — stitching famous one-liners together instead of applying the method behind them.
  • Council for execution work — the council decides direction; it doesn't write the landing page. Hand off to the execution skill once direction is set.
  • Twelve advisors on a headline — match the bench size to the stakes.

Related Skills

  • positioning / product-marketing: When Dunford's take wins — execute the positioning work
  • offers / pricing: When Hormozi/Halbert direction wins — build the offer
  • copywriting / copy-editing: When the council reviewed copy — execute revisions
  • ads / ad-creative: When the debate was media or creative strategy
  • content-strategy / social: When Handley/Vaynerchuk direction wins
  • brand-strategy / marketing-psychology: For Sharp's availability work and Sutherland's behavioral mechanics
  • ab-testing: When the disagreement map says "test it" — Hopkins would insist
  • deep-research: For the live research pass, when installed

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